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   <title>Team Talk : Let the Countdown Begin</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.elkhartexpress.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8">winds55</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Let the Countdown Begin<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 Aug 2008 at 12:08pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by riverelk</strong></em><br /><br /><div> and wasn't there supposed to be an indoor football team in Elkhart starting this summer?&nbsp; No promotion is not a good omen.&nbsp; </div></td></tr></table><br><br>I had not heard of any indoor football team.&nbsp; The Shamrocks is an outdoor team that plays at Jimtown HS during the late summer/fall.&nbsp; Their schedule can be found using the Elkhart Truth's online search - their website isn't up to date.&nbsp; They have a few more home games this year.<br><br>Shawn - how about an update on how the August workouts with the Chinese players and potential Express went?&nbsp; <br><br>How has Phil's recovery gone?&nbsp; <br><br>Any news on the players who are playing in other leagues?&nbsp; <br><br>We still care, you know!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.elkhartexpress.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" /><br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by winds55 - 01 Sep 2008 at 8:33pm</span>]]>
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   <title>Team Talk : Let the Countdown Begin</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.elkhartexpress.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8">winds55</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Let the Countdown Begin<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Aug 2008 at 6:36am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by riverelk</strong></em><br /><br /><div>IIf--<u>if</u>, mind you--Bethea absolutely must sell the franchise, I have an idea that can work for both sides.&nbsp; Let them have the club, but keep the Express name, logo, and colors in Elkhart (fans of the Cleveland Browns know what I mean).&nbsp; Then, put some of that&nbsp;money into an expansion franchise, whether it be in the IBL or the Premiere Basketball League, that will assume the Express's identity.&nbsp; Bethea built a winner from scratch before,&nbsp;which proves&nbsp;he can&nbsp;do it again if he has to.</div><div>Besides, the way last season ended is no way to go out.</div></td></tr></table><br><br>First, I don't think there's any MUST to the situation - it's a business decision that will take into account all the business and (I hope) civic-minded factors, not a 'sell or close' panic situation.<br><br>I doubt the potential buyer(s?) interest is a club with no name.&nbsp; If he wanted that, he would start his own IBL franchise and recruit the players he wants.&nbsp; Anyone interested in buying the Express wants the Express - the name, the team, the logo, the mascot (the best one in the IBL that I've seen), the reputation.&nbsp; Everything but "Elkhart" with the smaller population, as the article I read mentioned moving to a location with&nbsp; a population of 50,000- 100,000. &nbsp; &nbsp; <br><br>Sure, Coach Beathea could start all over again.&nbsp; But with the current economy, and the demonstrated declining attendance after the 'newness' wore off, and the 'Yeah, but will he just sell in another three years' in the back of peoples (and sponsors) minds, just how likely is that?&nbsp; Would the challenge be worth it? &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  <br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Team Talk : Let the Countdown Begin</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.elkhartexpress.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=29">Elkhart_Fan</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Let the Countdown Begin<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Aug 2008 at 8:42pm<br /><br />River - Your points, while mostly good, really don't touch on the main point of this decision.....you're looking at it from a fan perspective, but I think you need to look at it from a owner perspective.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>First, you put a great product on the floor year in, and year out -- only to have attendance go down.&nbsp; If this city really wants the Express to thrieve, then they need to, (in the words of Coach), put their "butts in the seats".</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Second, the Express play at Northside, pay $10K in rent, but can't even get quality concession's in the building.&nbsp; The school system, you would think, would look at this situation as a money-maker -- but alass, they do the very minimum, and do their part poorly.&nbsp; (And don't get me started on the shaft that the school board wanted to start before the season a couple years back....).</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Third, (and my last point), is look at all of the crap that was in the on-line comments when this story broke (about the possible sale).&nbsp; People from all over took cheap shots at this organization, and mainly for Coach simply making a point that many teams have better gyms and concessions, (he mentioned beer sales)....he was treated like an idiot.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Long story short....while I don't like it....maybe Coach should take the money and run -- it appears that most of Elkhart don't appreciate the good thing they have.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.elkhartexpress.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=58">riverelk</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Let the Countdown Begin<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Aug 2008 at 4:41pm<br /><br /><DIV>For the approximately 700 fans who attended that summer exhibition earlier this month,&nbsp;doing so&nbsp;was one way.&nbsp; I know $1.5 million, the figure the&nbsp;<EM>Truth</EM> reported,&nbsp;is a big lure, but there are more advantages to keeping the franchise in Elkhart.&nbsp; For starters, it's something for us fans to do.&nbsp; Second, the school district benefits from parking and concessions.&nbsp; Most importantly, the Express is pretty much the only game in town, literally.&nbsp; It's a half-hour drive from downtown Elkhart to the Cove for Silverhawks games. &nbsp;(I know; I've been there.&nbsp; Besides, the 'Hawks lost as many times in the three games I've seen--twice, and both by shutout--as the Express have in the <U>50</U> games I've attended!)&nbsp; Notre Dame is a tough ticket to get no matter what&nbsp;the sport, and wasn't there supposed to be an indoor football team in Elkhart starting this summer?&nbsp; No promotion is not a good omen.&nbsp; That leaves only high school sports, which can get kind of rowdy (again, been there, done that).</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I know we fans have done all we could short of stalking or picketing but, in the words of <EM>Denver Post</EM> sportswriter Woody Paige, I'm a solutions-oriented guy.&nbsp; If--<U>if</U>, mind you--Bethea absolutely must sell the franchise, I have an idea that can work for both sides.&nbsp; Let them have the club, but keep the Express name, logo, and colors in Elkhart (fans of the Cleveland Browns know what I mean).&nbsp; Then, put some of that&nbsp;money into an expansion franchise, whether it be in the IBL or the Premiere Basketball League, that will assume the Express's identity.&nbsp; Bethea built a winner from scratch before,&nbsp;which proves&nbsp;he can&nbsp;do it again if he has to.&nbsp; Of course, the drawback of moving&nbsp;to the PBL&nbsp;for 2009 is the decision won't come until October, which would give Bethea just three months prep time before the PBL starts its season.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>That's a&nbsp;complex solution, I know, but the simplest solution is to keep the team in Elkhart.&nbsp; And from the community's point of view, that is the best solution.&nbsp;&nbsp;Besides, the way last season ended is no way to go out.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.elkhartexpress.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8">winds55</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Let the Countdown Begin<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 Aug 2008 at 5:50am<br /><br />Two months before the big decision is announced.&nbsp; Will the Express be sold?&nbsp; If so, to whom?&nbsp; Where will the team land?&nbsp; <br><br>The opportunity for Coach Beathea is great.&nbsp; He's run the team as a business, has run it well, and the offers to buy the team are a result of that hard work.&nbsp; The logical side of my brain tells me all that.&nbsp; <br><br>The other side of my brain wants to make a giant "Don't Sell!" sign and plant it on CR 17.&nbsp; Wants to stalk the practices and beg him to stay. Spend my grocery money on lottery tickets in the hopes of making a better offer.&nbsp; Post stories of dull spring and early summer weekends with absolutely nothing to do but wander down Bristol Street remembering the good old days, telling little kids about the fun they missed, muttering to myself and becoming known as the crazy lady in the faded Express T-shirt.<br><br>So first question of the countdown - How do you think we can convince the Coach that the Express should stay the ELKHART Express?<br>]]>
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   <title>IBL : Battle Creek</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.elkhartexpress.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=29">Elkhart_Fan</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Battle Creek<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 Jul 2008 at 6:58pm<br /><br />Wow - what about the news that Battle Creek has left the IBL for the PBL.&nbsp; I wonder how this will effect the IBL Eastern teams?&nbsp; Will it effect Elkhart?&nbsp; It's no secret on the web that there are lots of folks upset with Duilio, and I wonder if Battle Creek is the first domino to fall, and how many more will bail the IBL?]]>
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   <title>IBL : West Playoffs</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.elkhartexpress.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=12">ball4life</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> West Playoffs<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 Jul 2008 at 2:44pm<br /><br />Hopefully the league will take better stock in the importance of the regular season. They got their wish in having a Western champion so congradulations to them. The NBA and NHL use the best regular season record to be the home team.  MLB used to but now its the all star game.  NFL always uses a predetermined site but the best record is awarded as the home team.  Catch the drift.<br /><br />Shawn Randall]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Team Talk : Nothing to be ashamed of...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.elkhartexpress.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=12">ball4life</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Nothing to be ashamed of...<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 Jul 2008 at 2:36pm<br /><br />I can honestly say that the better team won that night. We are used to teams playing out of their mind for a quarter or even a half.  The Slam came ready to play 48 minutes and the Express did not.  We will more then welcome a re match at North Side Gym with our loud and rowdy fans. That would make for another great game. Despite the league's lack of regard for a teams regular season performance, the Slam crowd was a good one.<br /><br />We have traveled a lot of places over our three years. Most times there is nobody in the gym other then the teams and well traveled Express fans. Your 1100 strong was a good thing. The got to see a great game and see their team play well and win. The web-cast was a blessing because I did not have to text a hundred different people a constant update <img src="http://www.elkhartexpress.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> so thank you!  The trophy was looking good too.  We had a spot all cleared and ready for it. lol  Best of luck to you in the future.]]>
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   <title>Team Talk : Game Pics</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.elkhartexpress.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8">winds55</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Game Pics<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Jul 2008 at 9:50pm<br /><br />http://www.oursportscentral.com/boards/showthread.php?t=11849<br><br>There are some great pictures from the championship game posted on oursportscentral (copy and paste the above should take you to the thread), as well as a link to more pictures and a place to order a dvd.<br><br><br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by winds55 - 20 Jul 2008 at 9:51pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.elkhartexpress.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=29">Elkhart_Fan</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> West Playoffs<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 Jul 2008 at 8:03pm<br /><br />Something isn't right with this picture....]]>
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